DUMBO Community Workshop

June 10, 1999
Smack Mellon Studios
Brooklyn NY

The following is only a small sample from the transcripts of the workshop. 

All names have been edited out.


“I was born in Queens and grew up on Governors Island. My parents met at the Brooklyn Navy Yard at a Coast Guard dance. I have been pretty fascinated by this area because I had this really strange dream a few years ago about a small town that was near a large metropolis. I wasn’t sure whether it was New York or Philadelphia. But then when I was brought to Vinegar Hill it was almost exactly what was in my dream.”


“Location on the river determines the fate of the neighborhood. The 1765 map shows that this area is predominantly tobacco plantations. And that was soon replaced by the maritime industry, which then gave rise to the foundries and the manufacturing that predominated in this area until the BQE was built. We love the river and fight very hard to maintain what little access we have.”


“There were so many skirmishes, it wasn’t even a battle. They fought at all the forts that were built in this area, whether it be in Fort Greene, which was actually Fort Putnam, or the fort at the reservoir and Prospect Park. All those were captured. Washington had about 2000 men here. The British came in with 10,000.

The Brooklyn Historical Society has an etching by a revolutionary soldier who etched what he saw out in the bay. He said there were so many ships coming down the East River that you could no longer see the river. All you saw were the sea of white masts as the British came down and landed on Staten Island.

I would just like to say that certainly that battle and Washington’s retreat, and then the building of the Brooklyn Bridge are probably the best known, most dramatic historical events. For me what’s fascinating are the things I don’t know. You mentioned something I never heard of, that the first ferry was burned down because they thought Manhattanites were taking over the waterfront. I’d like to hear more about that, what did that mean and what are the circumstances surrounding that? Or the fact that this was a tobacco growing area, and what did the Empire Stores really do?”


“This was historically a shipping and manufacturing district….and now there’s a new form of creation, there’s a lot of artists and other light industry that’s going on. The suggestion is now to create this enormous entertainment and shopping complex, a destination for people from all over Brooklyn and Queens and a million tourists a year on the Circle Line, to come and consume. To go to the same chain stores that are found in any mall anywhere in America. I speak more personally, it’s a very depressing period to be in where people’s leisure is spent shopping and sitting in food courts. I just went to the Baltimore Harbor, and people talk about that as being such a great place, and I went inside to see all these people on this beautiful day sitting inside, eating this food, going from chain store to chain store schlepping their bags, when they’re on this beautiful site that’s just been obscured.”


 “It sounds like your description of the sort of homogenization of the area and DUMBO and Fulton Ferry turning into a backdrop for consumption, I think what you’re also bringing up is the way that kind of experience will help nullify everyone’s personal experience of the place as they discover it now. It seems like everybody speaks of it as, you come here and you go wow, how did this happen? Or why did this develop in this particular way. I’m not even sure if it’s a problem merely of consumption, but the fact that you’ll have hoards of people here who will never go through that discovery process.”